Video: Learning and literacy difficulties and need to drop a sick note to the jobcentre? Too bad. You’re banned. Get out

Here’s one you should see: a recent* video which shows a woman with learning and literacy difficulties being told to Get Out of Kilburn jobcentre – even though she needed to drop off an all-important sick note at the jobcentre.

I post this to show you how unpleasant things can be at these places for long-term unemployed people who have support needs. People in these situations really are at the bottom of the pile. They have no power and absolutely no means of challenging the DWP.

I hate that.

The woman, Linda (name changed. I’ve written about her many times) is in her 50s. The day I took the video, Linda, as I say, needed the jobcentre to accept a sick note she had from her doctor. She risked sanctions if the jobcentre did not accept the note.

Nonetheless, the jobcentre adviser we saw refused to take the sick note.

That was because Linda was serving a ban from Kilburn jobcentre for losing her temper through sheer frustration and upset. Aggressive outbursts from people in Linda’s situation are inevitable.

We’ll get to that.

The story:

Linda has signed on at Kilburn jobcentre for years. They know her well there – probably too well, in the sense that familiarity in these places can breed contempt. Linda’s a permanent fixture. She’s a target for the DWP’s institutional contempt because of that. I’ve seen people act as though she’s annoyingly underfoot. Like a lot of older, long-term unemployed people with learning difficulties and deteriorating health (Linda’s had blood clots and deep vein thrombosis, and can’t walk far) Linda is very unlikely to find work. She’s stuck in the benefits system at a time when contempt for people who rely on that system is rife.

She is perfectly aware of that contempt. She responds in kind.

Which leads us to the ban.

Earlier this year, Linda was banned from the jobcentre for losing her temper and and raging at staff. I’ve spoken to an eyewitness. Linda was out of control and screamed the place down. Apparently, this started when a security guard said something to her.

I can imagine that some people will say that Linda deserved this ban. I’m saying that such a view is hopelessly simple. I’m saying that people in Linda’s situation often can’t cope in today’s harsh jobcentre environment and it shows. I realise that jobcentre staff shouldn’t have to put up with abuse and aggression, but there is another side to things that doesn’t get air. Linda gets frustrated and very, very angry. She struggles with the DWP’s demanding and punitive jobsearch regime.

She’s had little support, especially in the past few years as austerity has reduced the service. Jobcentre advisers have admitted as much directly to Linda and I.

Linda is extremely sensitive to comments from authority figures. She often feels patronised and dismissed out of hand. She often IS patronised and dismissed out of hand. I’ve certainly seen that. This video (I took this last year) shows security guards telling a very unwell Linda that she must climb a flight of stairs to get to a first-floor benefits sign-on appointment. She couldn’t climb the stairs, because she couldn’t breathe properly (that was just after her problem with thrombosis began). The guards insisted that she must climb the stairs.

I thought that was sadistic if I’m honest.

I thought the jobcentre’s refusal to take Linda’s sick note as in the video at the start of this post was pretty sadistic as well. The sick note was crucial to keeping Linda’s benefit claim running. It excused her from compulsory jobsearch activities on the grounds of ill health caused by thrombosis. Without that sick note in the DWP system, Linda risked sanctions for failing to complete jobsearch tasks.

Nonetheless, the adviser we saw made us leave when she realised Linda was banned. The adviser would not accept the sick note. She wouldn’t even accept the sick note from me while Linda waited outside. I thought that was a bit much. The jobcentre could have taken the sick note from me. As I say, that sick note was vital. Without it, Linda risked a sanction. The ban was supposed to be her punishment for her behaviour. Putting her in a situation where she risked a sanction was an extra punishment that the jobcentre had no right to impose.

The adviser told Linda that she must post the sick note to the DWP (she went to a desk for a Freepost envelope), or take the sick note to another jobcentre. Problem was: Linda was too ill to make the trip to another jobcentre. She was out of breath and couldn’t walk far. As I say, she’s had those problems for some time.

In the end, I took the sick note to Willesden jobcetnre. We also posted a copy of the sick note to the Freepost address.

So.

I wanted to post this video to show you again the state of this “service” in places. It felt like a final act of a sort. The DWP’s punitive jobsearch demands push people with support needs too hard. They react very aggressively. Jobcentres have neither the time nor the expertise to deal with people with this sort of challenging behaviour. They slap on bans and enforce them.

Worth noting, though, that the situation described above is better than the one Linda will find herself in when she’s moved to Universal Credit. Kilburn jobcentre is earmarked for closure. Linda will be forced to ring the DWP or to look online if she has problems with Universal Credit. Her literacy difficulties are such that she can’t easily use online systems. At least while Kilburn jobcentre is open, Linda is able to visit a familiar place and get instructions about submitting sick notes elsewhere before she is thrown out. It’s not much of a service, but it’s better than nothing, which is what she’ll get on Universal Credit. Mark my words.

*The date on the video is wrong I took the video at Kilburn on Friday 4 August 2017 and forget to set the camera clock.

15 thoughts on “Video: Learning and literacy difficulties and need to drop a sick note to the jobcentre? Too bad. You’re banned. Get out

  1. Is Linda still enduring the 3 month waiting period before the DWP will even countenance triggering the evil wca process?

  2. People who depend on other people and cannot always play it cool always have problems. Actually I think going online can be a solution – we just have to push to make these systems very user-friendly. Voice-controlled, for example.

  3. I know how this woman feels, I sympathize with her. I often feel like my head is going to explode when I talk to JCP staff. That’s why I wish they would shut them all down, just have some IT/Advice centres instead for those who need them. I have to atetned Jobcentre tomorrow for a ‘Group Session’, totally dreading it. Hope I can keep my mouth shut and get out of there as soon as.

  4. The Jobcentre doesn’t seem to make any provision for people with illnesses or health issues. The attitude seems to be that you’re not really ill or you wouldnt be here, but if you have to hand in a sick note then you can’t avoid being there! Likewise with people who have a diagnosed illness yet have been classed as being fit for work. I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve been asked by jcp advisers what my illness is or means. I shouldnt have to explain that. It’s enough that they have been informedof my illness/conditions & it’s up to them to refer that to a superior or look it up themselves on the NHS website. One dole clerk woman once suggested to me that I am fit for work because my condition is “only borderline” – Borderline Personality Disorder does not mean that!

  5. One can tell when the system is on it’s way to collapse, when simple human values go out of the window. I can understand the anger and rage that people experience in these terrible circumstances., and I cannot comprehend the depths of inhumanity that working class civil servants and operatives allow the system to take them to, in working with their “customers.” Poisonous, decadent attitudes mark the death of civilization.

  6. Rightly or wrongly people get marked down as troublemakers, and this doesn’t help with the Jobcentre. Its often the same people that seem to get repeat sanctions, and the advisors are leery of dealing with them.
    Everything is on the screen before them of course as they interview someone, any bans or ‘unacceptable customer behaviour.’ But its certainly true that the DWP are not taking enough notice of the problem of internet access, and closing all these Jobcentres is only going to make things worse.

    • regarding internet access, the computers provided in the Jobcentre at the moment are pretty useless, very slow & constantly crashing. Don’t know if that’s the same in all Jobcentres but in mine it is. I go to Library instead, but am limited to one hour sessions in main library & only half hour in local community library (which is earmarked for closure soon anyway), so it’s a good job I’m on JSA & not UC with 35 hrs jobsearch rule.

  7. We are the British Gestapo who bully anyone daring to defend themselves against Jobcentre sociopaths.

    You will all be receiving threatening letters from us if you continue to stand up to evil

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