Jobcentre to man with learning difficulties: Do as we say or we’ll make you sign on more often

Now isn’t this charming.

On Thursday, I went again to one of the northwest London jobcentres to meet up with Eddie (named changed), the 51-year-old man with learning and literacy difficulties who I’ve accompanied to JSA signon sessions for coming up to six months. Eddie’s signon time changed last week and I met him at the jobcentre just as he came down the stairs from his appointment.

He was furious. He felt that he’d been threatened. He said the jobcentre had told him that his next sign on appointment would take place at 2pm on a Thursday afternoon, rather than in the morning as usual. Eddie told the jobcentre that he preferred morning appointments. It suits him. He finds that routine easier to manage. But that is too bad, it seems. Eddie said he was told off for arguing the toss about the new afternoon signon plan. He said the jobcentre made it clear that if he kicked up a fuss about afternoon signon times, he’d be forced to attend every week to sign on instead of every fortnight. No matter that absolutely nothing ever happens at his signon meetings. He’d just be forced to attend more of them and get no help more often. Great.

I hear this sort of thing too often now: people with learning difficulties, or mental health problems being threatened with some sort of backlash if they object to jobcentre regimes. Maggie (named changed), a woman in Northamptonshire who has a long-term schizophrenia diagnoses, told me that she was recently warned by the DWP not to say “Never” when she told the department that her partner Sean (named also changed), who has severe depression and Asperger’s syndrome, would never attend the work-focused interviews that the local jobcentre very much wants to make him attend (here’s that story and the letter that Sean’s local jobcentre sent calling him to such an interview). Sean is in the Support Group for Employment and Support Allowance. People in the Support Group for ESA are supposed to be exempt from all work and work-focused interviews, because of the severity of their health conditions. The idea that some people simply can’t work is clearly being eased out of the DWP, and society, altogether, though – people in Sean and Maggie’s situation are getting letters and phone calls “inviting” them to job-focused interviews. They know they’ll be asked again and that the ante will be upped in a serious way if they refuse. Maggie and Sean are already worried about that “Never say Never To Us” they got from the DWP. They wonder if there will be repercussions.

They have reason to worry. The DWP’s contempt for benefit claimants is often very poorly disguised. And let’s face it – there are times when it isn’t disguised at all. If you want to hear that contempt in full roar, just listen to this recording recently taken at a jobcentre group induction meeting for new JSA claimants:

As you can hear, throughout that meeting, one claimant kept interrupting and challenging the adviser who was in charge of the session. The problem is that the jobcentre didn’t seem to have a plan in place to deal with a disruptive claimant. In lieu of such a plan, the adviser just spat the dummy and yelled at the claimant. Which wasn’t much of a plan, really. Shrieking your head off generally isn’t.

The truth is that sometimes people are disruptive at jobcentres. People sign on for a range of reasons and they bring a range of behaviours with them. That’s just a fact. Professionals ought to be able to deal with it. They certainly ought to be abe to get whatever training they need to deal with it. People with problems sometimes exhibit challenging behaviour. Screaming back at them is not a great professional response. You’d expect the DWP to put plenty of resource into staff and schemes for dealing with challenging conduct in constructive ways. One constructive idea, for example, would be to staff jobcentres adequately – to pay for enough advisers to hold one-to-one induction sessions with new JSA claimants, as opposed to shoving ten or so new claimants into a group session that one person can disrupt. But no. New claimants are told they must attend group sessions because staff no longer have time to cover all information – “there is no way on earth that any work coach would have the time to go through all of this with you in one session,” the adviser in the recording above told that group of people. So. I think that the DWP’s main plan for the tense moments these days is to tool jobcentres up with security guards. God knows they are everywhere. I’ve sometimes been questioned by a line of three guards as I’ve accompanied people to their signon meetings.

I’ll tell you what I see. More and more, I think jobcentres and work programme centres are being used as dumping-grounds for people with learning difficulties, or people with mental health problems – people who once had services that were better angled towards even a basic idea of inclusion. When I first met them several years ago, Sean and Maggie – the couple I mentioned above – told me that they used to attend a local mental health support centre. They met at that centre, in fact. But somewhere along the line, they were told that they couldn’t attend any more. There wasn’t enough help to go around and the feeling was that they could cope on their own – or, at least, cope better on their own than other people who needed the service. Maggie once said a social worker told her to call the police if things at home ever got out of hand.

Eddie’s story is very similar. His mother used to work with employers to find him jobs. As a result, he had work for many years as a general kitchen and hotel assistant. But his mother died about ten years ago and he was made redundant a few years after that. He’s never found another job. He had a support worker a couple of years ago, but that person simply stopped turning up. Eddie was never sure why and he didn’t really know who to check with, or how to chase the person up. He’s recently been found another support worker – but that is only because people at the Kilburn unemployed workers’ group asked around and pushed the council until they found someone. It was down to volunteers at the unemployed workers’ group to help Eddie. There was nothing formal in place for him at all.

There is certainly nothing formal in place at the jobcentre. There’s nothing going on there at all that I can see. Eddie’s jobcentre adviser actually asked me last year if I could help him with his online job applications, because the jobcentre didn’t have the time or the staff to do it. The jobcentre sends him on courses from time to time – the idea being, I guess, that a one-off computer course with a so-called skills course provider will somehow plug a gap that should actually be filled by an adviser who liaises with employers for several hours each week on Eddie’s behalf. That sure as hell isn’t going to happen, though. Eddie’s signon sessions last five or ten minutes at most. Nobody’s once called a potential employer, or helped him fill in a job application form at the signon sessions I’ve attended with him in the last six months. Absolutely nothing seems to be changing there. After last Thursday’s signon session, Eddie and I did what we usually do after his jobcentre appointments – we went to the Costa on the high road and sat down to fill in yet another job application form together. Here’s a picture of the form we worked on. You’ll see that it is complicated and incredibly fiddly – a pain in the butt generally and an impossible ask for someone who struggles to read and write (the papers folded in the packet at the front of the picture are his signon appointment sheets):

Hotel_job_application

Which brings me, in a roundabout way, to the *charming* welfare-to-work company Maximus. I expect to see a lot more people languishing at jobcentres once Maximus gets cracking with fitness to work assessments. Nick @Mylegalforum has a good article here about a green light to Maximus to “diminishing” the number of people in the ESA Support Group. Nick makes the point that the government won’t want those people found fit for work, or placed in the ESA work related activity group, because there’s no work for people in these situations and WRAG is useless and full to bursting anyway. I know exactly where people found fit for work will go: they’ll be dumped in jobcentres until they fall foul of sanctions regimes and then they’ll be ditched onto the side of the road and/or told to apply for ESA again. That’s our charming era. If you’re not able to work and/or not able to find work for yourself, you can kiss all hope goodbye. At best, your life will spent as work programme and work course fodder. Between times, you’ll be grinding your way around the revolving door out the front of Maximus.

Like I say, I’m already spending a lot of time with people in these situations – people who are long-term unemployed and have learning difficulties, or mental health problems and get absolutely no help on any front. Their support workers come and go as cash-strapped councils cut funding. Their day services have closed, or don’t have enough staff to cater for everyone who needs support. No adviser at their jobcentres can give them more than ten minutes at a time and god only knows what their work programme providers are doing – the provider appointments I’ve attended with people have only ever lasted about 15 minutes and have never gone much beyond a cursory “how’s it going?” from advisers there. I’ve been attending these appointments with people for over a year now and seen no action at all. Maybe I need to give it another year or something. As things stand, I have never seen any adviser ring up an employer, or set up a job interview, or fill in a job application form with someone who can’t, or explain to an employer how, say, a literacy problem can be managed. This is no longer even creaming and parking. This is parking people and then nailing them to the ground.

Anyway. That’s this government and social security, people – redefining the word Clusterfuck about once an hour.

Not everyone’s suffering, of course – Maximus is just about to launch itself into a lucrative contract to repeatedly find people who aren’t able to work fit for work and to put the fear of god into the rest. Doesn’t make a lot of sense, but sounds a great little earner, for Maximus anyway. I’d prefer a system where people who needed benefits were assessed for benefits by their own doctors and given any help they required to find work if that is what they wanted, but what would I know. Instead, we have a system where we piss millions away to help companies like Maximus expand worldwide and where the DWP can threaten people with learning difficulties if they find afternoon signons a struggle. It is all complete shit.

You can find details of tomorrow’s day of action against Maximus here.

15 thoughts on “Jobcentre to man with learning difficulties: Do as we say or we’ll make you sign on more often

  1. Unfortunately I came to the conclusion may years ago the the government of the days real agender was an ideological was for claimants to do the right thing for the good of all tax paying economical viable citizens or in plain english pi** off and die you crippled, sick, skint, syco lying, tattoo d scumbag
    I have yet to be convinced that Iam wrong in my assumption by ANY political party

    • Welcome to a repeat of history. That was the aim of the workhouse that killed 5 million in the 19th century (where poverty was looked upon as a crime and those in the workhouse were inmates) and the New Poor Law that forbade feeding the starving on the street.

      And it was the Tories and Liberals (called now Lib Dems) who brought that about.

  2. I read somewhere that council grants will reduce from the high of around £14 billion to a projected mere around £2 billion by 2020.

    And that Maximus is charge double what Atos did.

    There is a way to end all this cruelty in May and the poor have it within their power to bring this about the best of any time in UK history, by putting a cross on a bit of paper by these logos on Thursdy 7 May.

    See how at:
    http://www.anastasia-england.me.uk

  3. I feel for these people,I am 51 and until I lost my business I had no idea of what being unemployed was,benefits trap? You start to depend on that £72.40 p/w Pasta,Rice and Spuds,I went into my review with my “Job Coach” waited until she was through slagging off other claimants and the she asked me how it was going? I do not trust them “Anything you say will be used against you” took 4 minutes,I had printed out a day by day log of what I have done searching for work,not interested,so what is the point?

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  5. Funny you mention the workhouse, isn’t that what the Mandatory Work Placement scheme is in this day and age?

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  7. The reason he will give his name is because he knows full well that any complaint will go ignored and unanswered,jobcentre plus shows no remorse for its aggressive abusive behavior.there is absolutely no regard for peoples disabilities or conditions,these are treated with total don’t care contempt. some coaches appear to get a kick from actions.

    people with learning difficulties and mental health problems have their conditions worsened under stress,more prone to sanctions and harassment from G4s,given or sent on totally useless courses that they will struggle on,find the appeals process difficult confusing from these bunch of total cowards.

    • That’s a good point. I never thought of that at the time. Of course he didn’t care about giving his name.

    • Cheers Swheatie – a good article and exactly right. ”

      In conclusion, all this illustrates for me how adults with learning difficulties are really disabled by inadequate support in a world where there are organisations such as Direct Computer Training and Maximus really creaming off the taxpayer and adults with learning difficulties are disabled and disheartened by the message of ‘time out’.”

      • Hi again, Kate.
         
        Since my return home from going out for evening meeting, I’ve added a post script to the above blog piece.
         
        [extract starts]:
        …. The story of the person who ‘got the wrong message’ from what Owen [the service user with speech impairment] had said had not come to me from direct conversation with Owen but from another member of Owen’s support team who I’ll call ‘Graham’. My ‘ear’ for what Owen said was not nearly as finely tuned as Graham’s and I confided to Graham: “I’m amazed at the warmth in the way Owen greets me, bearing in mind how little of what he says I decipher correctly at the end of a 3 hour session.”

        “The thing about you, ‘Swheatie’,” Graham said, “is that you care. The trouble with so many agency carers [contracted at a moment’s notice when a regular worker reported in sick] is that they marshall Owen about, giving him orders and not listening to what he has to say.”

        Sounds like those ‘agency’ workers would feel very much at home in current Jcp culture that seems dedicated to making benefit claimants feel out of place, does not it?
        [extract ends]

  8. I used to work in a day centre for adults with learning disabilities – my first job after dropping out of a college course after having a mental breakdown, followed by several years of unemployment. You can probably guess why I’m not working there any more. It’s a bit much to lose your job because of Government spending cuts and then be harassed and scapegoated for daring to be out of work. Cutting the funding social services provision down to the bone means that the people who used to work in those services are going to have to sign on, aren’t they? This really isn’t difficult.

    • My own exit from being a paid 2005-2006 carer came after 11 months of being one, making my tenure as a waged part-time carer my longest calendar stint as a paid worker since my 1972-77 salaried service in tow posts, before I applied for ESA in 2009.
       
      My Acting line manager at the time I was eventually taken on in May 2005 had witnessed my support in the basic education unit as a basic education unit learner support volunteer, really cared about me and the service users and attempted to get me Access to Work support that was paid for by the DWP. Yet the person from Scope’s Employment Services that she approached for this considered the lack of in-service training available from the employer even for non-disabled staff under a zero growth budget from the council that commissioned that charity’s home care services, and said that she could not take me on on the Access to Work scheme. She said that September when I was still on just two or three 3 hour shifts per week: “The level of in-service support for paid staff without disabilities is practically zero and you are dealing with VULNERABLE ADULTS. So I cannot possibly recommend to my manager taking ‘Swheatie’ on as a client.”
       
      I struggled on without Access to Work support as a part-time worker in the vain hope that given sufficient dedication, I would eventually win through somehow, being careful to not take on support sessions that the ‘Essential Information’ sheets about the service users might imply I could not cope with. In my jobsearch strategy I was also diligent about studying the underpinning knowledge of being a support worker in the ‘personal social services’ industry by referrening to background materials from City & Guilds with reference to, say, such terms as ‘abuse’ and negligence. (Would that government ministers took such training stuff on board, including the General Social Care Council ‘core values’ pamphlet we were given at our induction!)
       
      After walking about six miles there and back for 3 hour shifts at £7.81 per hour and developing cellulitis in my legs while JSA screwed up my top-up income, though, I made mistakes over shift-times that had been altered by telephone call and I realised it was time for me to quit. For more on this, see my 2007 blog piece ‘Benefit claimants need firmer safeguards, not tougher sanctions’.
       
      Caring for the service one wants to give must be matched by the support available to do the work, especially when the lives and aspirations of vulnerable people are at stake. (‘Austerity’ serves the pursuit of even greater inequality.)

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