TIME TO TAKE THE WHOLE BENEFITS CLAIM SYSTEM DOWN AND START AGAIN. This is mayhem. Seriously.

Okay.

Here’s another example of the utter dysfunction of the benefits system, from its myriad useless angles. I think we can safely say that we’ve reached the point where hardly an aspect of this bureaucracy is fit for purpose (see other articles I’ve posted recently for plenty more on that. The whole thing is out of control. It doesn’t even make sense). I’m pretty sure that I could run a better system myself out of a garage, pissed. I reckon I get two or three calls and/or emails a week about the sort of monumental bureaucratic mess described below at the moment. These situations require endless phone calls (and ages spent on hold), letters, challenges, visits to welfare advisers (if anyone can find them) and appeals to MPs and councillors. It never, ever ends.

These sorts of situations are also almost impossible for one person to deal with. That point needs to be made loud and clear. The calls take hours, as do the letters, application forms and time needed to source support information. Calls go unanswered and letters and certificates go missing, or aren’t acknowledged for ages. There’s no way that people can sort out problems of this magnitude by themselves these days. Finding a welfare rights adviser with the time to help is often just not a starter. Those services have gone, or are so oversubscribed that people no longer bother to try. I know this, because I’ve queued myself at places like the CAB and found all appointments gone by 9am.

So.

I’ve just been talking with a woman I know well. She is 22 years old and has a four-year-old daughter. This young woman has about £20 a week to live on at the moment. Here’s a list of the way things are going for her with benefit claims at the moment. This could be anybody’s story, too. God knows I hear plenty similar.

In the past month or so, this young woman has:

– Had her child tax credit stopped, purportedly because she has another person living with her. She has never heard of this person. In her life. You’ll will know, of course, that many other people are dealing with the same sort of situation and the collapse of this part of the system.

This begs a number of questions, one of which I would like answered as a matter of priority. Shouldn’t the DWP, HMRC, councils and their various useless provider companies be required to provide evidence of all this alleged cohabitation BEFORE accusations are made and benefits are actually withdrawn? What is this system where an accusation is made and money simply stopped? Why is the onus on people who receive such payments to prove that they’re innocent? In the last week or so, my phone really has been buzzing with calls and emails from people who are experiencing these sorts of problems. There’s a guy I’m working with in north west London at the moment who has been accused of sharing his home with some bloke he’s simply never heard of. His council says that the DWP has imparted this information and that it’s his responsibility to prove that the bureaucrats are wrong. If he doesn’t, his housing benefit will be cut. Wtf. Really. Homelessness lies at the end of that path.

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Mental health, sanctions and a whole bunch of nothing. More stories from the jobcentre.

A little more about mental health conditions and unemployment as described by people who are experiencing those things in our hardbitten day and age:

I was at Oldham jobcentre last week. Outside, I spoke for some time with Peter*, a man in his 40s who struck up a conversation because he was nervous about going into the jobcentre for a meeting he’d been called to.

In the course of our discussion, Peter said he had depression so severe that he was hospitalised earlier this year for it. (It seemed that his jobcentre adviser knew about this depression. When Peter came out of the meeting later on, he showed me a leaflet about counselling sessions with numbers to call. His jobcentre adviser had given him the leaflet). Peter was unkempt on the day we met. He was dressed in sweatpants, a faded top and the soft pull-on shoes that some people wear as slippers. He said that he lived in a council house with his brother and mum. He was articulate, although I found him hard to follow at times, because we jumped between topics. I’ve transcribed the conversation below. I’m writing this to give you an idea of the way that people speak.

I’m also writing this to give you an idea of the DWP’s pettiness and threats. Such a lot of government communication with the unemployed takes this petty, but threatening, tone. We’ve seen that many, many times before, of course, but another look won’t go amiss. Peter showed me the letter that he’d received which called him to that day’s jobcentre meeting. He let me take a photo of it. I’ve posted a copy below. You’ll see this letter says that Peter’s Universal Credit will be docked if he missed his meeting without good reason (whatever that is these days) – he’ll lose £10.40 per day. It was a crappy threat on a crappy piece of paper – contempt written all over the thing. This is the sort of letter that the DWP sends to people with serious mental health conditions:

letter on UC sanctions

The threat certainly had its intended effect.

“It’s a good job I come down today, because that’s what would have happened to me, you know,” Peter said. “Sanctions, that’s what happened [to me] last year. Like it’s a long time – 91 days.”

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Endless, endless disability assessments while support is destroyed. These assessments NEVER end

This ought to tell you something about the criminal waste of time and money that is our disability assessment system:

As readers of this site will know, I’ve been following the benefit assessment experiences of Sean (name changed), a 53-year-old man who has Asperger’s and severe depression and anxiety.

I’ve listed below some of the benefit assessments and reassessments – and associated DWP blunders and screwups, which is in many ways the real list – that Sean and his partner (who has a schizophrenia diagnosis) have experienced in recent times. They’re still in the middle of this non-stop assessment, of course. There literally is never a time when they’re not in the middle of one benefit assessment or another. They’re always filling in forms, waiting to be called to assessment, being called to assessment, going to assessment, waiting for assessment outcomes, appealing assessment outcomes, or being told to fill in a new set of forms.

But here’s the point I really want to make. There really isn’t any sort of service around that might change or improve their circumstances in any way. Quite the reverse. All of this couple’s support has been removed in the last few years. They had a social worker a few years ago, but lost that service because council funding was cut. The two used to attend a community mental health service (that’s where they met), but had to stop going there, because services were cut. They used a local welfare advice centre for some support with filling in application forms, but just received a letter saying that social security support at that service will end, because the housing association that funded part of it is pulling out. They are at the point where there is literally nobody around to help or to accompany them to face-to-face assessments. We get all this waffle from the DWP and government about getting people back to work and blah blah blah. At the same time, all familiar, useful and complex support is removed.

Still, the DWP assesses and assesses and assesses these people. I don’t know why the department expects things to have changed from one assessment to the next. A torrent of mail and paperwork pours through this couple’s door from the DWP and the council and their housing association. Some of the letters and processes don’t even make sense, as you’ll see below.

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Homeless: avoid the coppers, find a B&B…

Here are a few more perspectives from some of the street homeless people I’ve been speaking to in Manchester. I wander around from time to time and sit down with people for a while. We shoot the breeze about this and that.

You’ll note that both of the people in this article mention concerns about the police moving people on if they were found begging that day. The first guy, Chris*, said he’d heard that people were being sent back to their home towns and the second guy, Dave*, talked about fines for begging. There was certainly a ripple of concern going around that day. That’s the sort of thing I’m writing about here: concerns and uncertainties. On a given day, concerns travel. People say the same things.

The Manchester police said that the “GMP does not fine or return those found begging to their home towns,” and that “only where begging is accompanied by anti-social or criminal behaviour then we may issue a Dispersal Notice.”

So. People I spoke to around Manchester on a Thursday night had other views:

Sitting outside the NCP carpark on Blackfriars Street was Chris, 33. We chatted for a while. He was concerned about the coppers. He said that he’d heard they were out and about moving people on if they had cups out for coins.

We also talked about signing on for jobseekers’ allowance. He said – as a lot of people on the streets do when this subject is raised – that people had problems if they tried to sign on and to stay signed on without a stable address. It seems that people can use a Care Of address to sign on, but not everyone finds that easy to manage. People find keeping up with the DWP’s jobsearch demands and endless letters extremely difficult – which is hardly surprising. Benefit sanctions are never far away when you miss letters and meetings. As Dave says below, it can be hard to make yourself available for work when you’re homeless.

Chris said that he didn’t know what was happening with his JSA claim.

He was from Crewe:

“People who come here from all over the country as well like from different cities… they just end up here and there’s nowhere to go.

Well – the police and that have been going around today… and if they ain’t from around here, they’ve been telling them… sending them back where they are from…? I don’t know, but that’s what I’ve been told today…by…

[They come round] before Christmas, yeah…[to clear the streets for Christmas shoppers].

We talk about signing on for JSA.

You haven’t got an address you can’t….[sign on] yeah…

Did they tell you at the jobcentre?

Yeah…No, some people have got Care Of addresses, like, but they are only getting half the giro as well… I don’t know what is going on with mine, so. Don’t know what [it’s like] round here, like, but I know in…

[This] country needs sorting out…it needs knocking down and starting again.

I’m from Crewe. My girlfriend is up here. She is living at her parents’ at the moment. I’ve got a boy. He is [a baby].

Do you get to see him at all?

Yeah .

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Giving up on a PIP application – the useless application process is just too difficult

Here’s a situation I’ve dealt with a couple of times now:

I’ve just got off the phone with a woman who has a schizophrenia diagnosis. She has struggled with her mental health condition over the years and has been sectioned in the past.

She told me that she’d cancelled her Personal Independence Payment face-to-face assessment this week because she was too frightened and stressed to attend. She didn’t know what to do next.

Her partner, who has an Asperger’s diagnosis and severe depression and anxiety, has had a terrible time as he’s gone through the PIP application process this year (you can read that story here and here). His PIP face-to-face assessment was stopped by a Capita assessor who could decided that the applicant couldn’t cope with the face-to-face meeting. No adjustments were made for the applicant’s mental health and no alternatives were put in place so that he could get PIP. His Disability Living Allowance was stopped before a decision was made about his PIP application. Six weeks later, he found out that his PIP application had been denied – on the grounds that he didn’t comply at the face-to-face assessment. This was ridiculous. Then, his Mandatory Reconsideration – the DWP’s review of its own decision to deny him PIP – was carried out without his input or knowledge. His partner was worried about having the same experience and meeting with the same assessor who stopped his assessment (she was told to attend the same assessment centre). So she cancelled her appointment in a panic this week. If things can’t be fixed with a home assessment, or a paper-based assessment if that’s even doable, she’ll lose money that she can’t afford to lose. She’s worried about asking her GP to support a home visit application, because the letters she needs cost £15 a go.

This MUST happen all the time now – people pulling out of benefit applications because they can’t handle the process and they haven’t got the money to pay for the medical paperwork that they need. Another real problem is that there’s nobody really left to help people navigate these terrible benefit applications and the endless calls and paperwork that form such a large part of the application shambles. The CAB is almost impossible to use in the part of the country that these people live in (it’s difficult to use in other parts of the country too, as I’ve reported before). Appointments are scarce, queues are long and ongoing help for complex situations is hard to land. The local welfare advice centre is about to stop supporting cases because the Housing Association that funded the service is pulling the money. This woman did not have anyone to accompany her to the PIP face-to-face assessment she was meant to attend this week. Not so long ago, she might have had some help. A few years back, these two people had a social worker and a local mental health support facility that they could attend. Those services have disappeared.

Their already-small income is disappearing too. I realise that is the government’s aim, but that hardly improves things.

Pity Labour can’t pull its finger out and get on with being some sort of opposition. All these situations drag on and on while that party amuses itself with leadership contests, or whatever the hell it is doing. People in need have been abandoned to a benefits application system that they can’t use. Nobody seems able to stop it.

I can’t get benefits because I’m homeless and I haven’t got an address. Wtf is going on here.

I have been speaking with people who are homeless and who don’t have a fixed address.

They say that they can’t get or keep the benefits that they need.

The DWP says – of course – that things there is a system that homeless people can use to claim benefits and that the system works well.

I have doubts about that.

Last week, I spoke with three street homeless men in Manchester who all said – separately and adamantly – that they couldn’t and didn’t sign on for jobseekers’ allowance, because they didn’t have an address. I wasn’t actually looking to ask people about that in the first instance. The subject just kept coming up. I’ve been out in various parts of Manchester in the evenings talking with some of the people here who are street homeless. There are longer extracts from a couple of these interviews at the end of this article. We talked about housing benefit too, which obviously has address implications, but we were discussing JSA and ESA in this context:

“I’ve got nothing. I can’t claim benefits, because I’ve no address…You used to be able to sign on and they would give you so much money every day. Not any more. That’s all gone. Doesn’t exist anymore, that. Doesn’t exist.” Paul, 56, Deansgate, Thursday evening.

“You can’t claim dole, because you need a letterbox to get ID, but you need ID to get a letterbox…So all is as left is to beg, yeah…[I’ve been doing this for] five years…At the beginning, I had bags and bags of stuff. I had all me ID and that…[but] because you can’t look after it all the time, you stash it and other homeless people find it and… [shrugs].” Darren, 44, outside the Arndale Centre on Tuesday.

“I’m not going to get any benefits until you (sic) get an address.” Tom, 24, near Piccadilly station, Tuesday evening.

These conversations got me thinking. They got me thinking about exclusion, mainly – the ways in which people who really are on the rough end of things can be excluded from the income and support that might make a difference. I want to know more about the systems that the DWP and the government that is overseeing this mess have in place to make sure that people aren’t excluded from that support (yeah – I know. Don’t laugh). I get that people on the street can lead chaotic lives. I get that some people can have serious drug and alcohol problems, but so what. People with serious substance abuse problems should not be denied essentials such as housing and income. You adjust a system to meet needs, not the other way around. Readers of this site will know that the systems that people must use to claim benefits – benefits systems run by the DWP and jobcentres – can be extremely hard to navigate now and are in meltdown, even for claimants who do have an address. Readers of this site will also know that there is often a mile-wide gap between the way that the DWP says things work and the way that things actually work (if they work at all, that is).

So I rang the DWP. Needless to say, the DWP said that there was a functional system in place for prospective benefit claimants who don’t have an address. I rang the DWP’s New Claims line on Monday to ask (and spent 20 minutes on hold, just FYI. I’m keeping track of this aspect of service access). I spoke to an officer who insisted that there was a robust claims system in place for homeless people and that many used it. The officer seemed annoyed that I suggested otherwise. A Care Of address could be used, or a friend’s address (Why can’t he use your address if you’re a friend? this officer said to me at one point). The DWP said (when I asked) that people could use their local jobcentre as their Care Of address for DWP mail if they wanted (I wonder how many people want that). Continue reading

DWP to disabled man: We’re sticking with the Mandatory Reconsideration we did without you. No PIP for you

The story below is pretty extraordinary. It’s a classic example of the DWP’s extreme dysfunction and bureaucratic tangling. It also demonstrates how very few rights of appeal disabled people really have when they apply for benefits:

I’ve posted below a letter which was received last week by Sean (named changed), a man in his 50s who has an Asperger’s diagnosis and serious depression and anxiety. (I’ve been writing about Sean’s struggle to apply for Personal Independence Payment, the benefit that is meant to replace Disability Living Allowance).

About a month ago, Sean found out that his application for PIP had been turned down. Then, bizarrely, just a few days after he received that rejection letter, Sean got a letter from the DWP which said that his Mandatory Reconsideration of his PIP rejection decision had already been carried out and the decision to reject his PIP appeal upheld. Mandatory Reconsideration is the review that PIP applicants must ask for if they want to challenge a DWP decision about their PIP application. When people request a Mandatory Reconsideration, they can ask the DWP to review the reasons why they were turned down. The problem for Sean was that the DWP carried out a Mandatory Reconsideration of its decision to deny him PIP without telling or involving him. Sean didn’t request the Mandatory Reconsideration that the DWP did and he never had the chance to contribute to it. More than that – the letter Sean received about this random Mandatory Reconsideration showed that the DWP carried it out BEFORE it made a decision about Sean’s original PIP application. Sean didn’t request that Mandatory Reconsideration, because he didn’t even know his PIP application had been rejected when it was done. He was very upset about that, with good reason.

So – Sean wrote to the DWP to complain about this Mandatory Reconsideration going on without him. He asked the DWP to run his review again – and to this time give him a chance to contribute to it. He got this letter in return – a letter which says Sean’s Mandatory Reconsideration has already been done as far as the DWP is concerned and so that is the end of that:

Letter on mandatory reconsideration

The upshot is that Sean has been denied his right to tell the DWP why he believes he should get PIP. He also ended up with only two days to make an appeal against the PIP rejection to tribunal, because the DWP said he had to meet the appeal deadlines set out in the original random Mandatory Reconsideration letter.

It can be hard to keep up with all of this, you know. Kafkaesque really doesn’t begin to describe it. Makes you wonder how many sick or disabled people are denied benefits and their right to appeal if a decision goes against them. Let’s not forget either that Sean’s PIP application was turned down because he got extremely upset at his face-to-face assessment. His Asperger’s and anxiety mean that he finds coping with face-to-face assessments and meetings very difficult. No adjustments were made for that, though. The DWP’s decision to deny him PIP because of his Asperger’s and his struggle to cope in stressful situations such as benefit assessments with unsympathetic strangers was rotten in itself.

That situation is being followed up, believe me.

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Ever tried to call a council or the DWP? People in need MUST be excluded by these hopeless systems

I’m going to start putting up short posts about the incredible difficulties that people can have getting through to their councils and to the right people to speak to at the DWP on the phone.

I regularly call councils or the DWP on behalf of others or to get information, and am inevitably appalled at the trouble I have getting through and/or finding the right department, or getting callbacks, etc. These systems are getting worse. They have to be fixed. Public organisations can’t be allowed to exclude people who need support in this way. There’s no doubt in my mind that people must miss out on benefit entitlements everywhere now, because the systems they need to navigate to get to those entitlements are a dysfunctional shambles. This must be especially true for people who can’t use a computer and/or don’t have easy access to one. I find the whole thing challenging and confusing, and get lost in the system even though I make these calls a lot, as I say.

Let’s take as our first example a hopeless call I made to Barking and Dagenham council on Tuesday morning to ask about making a new housing benefit and council tax benefit claim for someone.

This is what it is like.

I made my first call at about 10am using a number about housing benefit that I found advertised on the council’s site: 020 8227 2970.

Wasn’t entirely sure if this was the right number, but continued as it seemed to take me to a general automated switchboard for the council and anyway, you’d hope that someone would soon put you right if you needed another number.

An automated message service gave me 5 options. I chose, 5, for general enquiries.

After that, I had to:

Choose 1 – for revenues and benefits
Choose 2 – for housing benefit and council tax benefit
Choose 1 – for new claims

At this point, the automated service told me that the only way to claim those benefits was to apply online. The service said that there were computers to use free of charge at council One Stop Shops. I imagine that some people wouldn’t know what a One Stop Shop was, but this service didn’t offer much chance to find out. When it finished the One Stop Shop message, it simply hung up in my ear.

So – I called back at about 11am and went through the same number selection process, except this time, I chose 3 instead of 1 as the last option. This was the number to choose if you were an existing claimant. I chose it in the hope that there would be an officer at the end of it. An automated message said that there would be a waiting time of between five and ten minutes, I think it was. In the event, I waited on hold for more than 20 minutes for someone to pick up the call. I’d be interested to know how people on pay as you go phones are affected by this sort of waiting-time. I use a pay as you go phone from time to time and have to top up the minutes. Continue reading

Nobody believes anybody now, even on DV issues. More stories from the jobcentre.

This one got sorted out in the end – but talk about having to work to get there.

The story below should give you an idea of the way that women who say they are threatened with domestic abuse can be treated. It should also give you an idea of the contempt that some advisers feel – and show – to some benefit claimants:

Not so long ago, I attended a jobcentre with a woman who had missed her JSA signon meeting that week, because she’d been at court to try and organise an order against a threatening ex-partner. She had to report to the jobcentre to explain the missed meeting and to find someone to sign her on.

The adviser we saw really did seem to want to make things as difficult as possible. Her attitude was hard to fathom, even allowing for the fact that there can be considerable dislike and mistrust between some advisers and some claimants. From the start, the jobcentre adviser presented obstacles, not solutions. Her tone was unpleasant. She may have been very stressed (she mentioned that she had to cover the whole floor that day), but still. Things should not operate this way. The tone was personal and dismissive. If someone comes in talking about court orders and injunctions, their benefit signon problems should really be addressed as a matter of priority. The jobcentre can sort out any details and paperwork it needs at a later date. That ought to be the system, no matter who an adviser is dealing with.

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We’ve done your PIP review and turned you down again. Without involving you. Or something

I am confused. Any insight into the situation described in this post would be more than welcome:

Below, we have more evidence – as if we needed it – that the Personal Independence Payment application system is a complete bureaucratic shambles.

I’ve posted below a letter which was received last Friday by Sean (named changed), a man in his 50s who has an Asperger’s diagnosis and serious depression and anxiety. Sean applied for PIP earlier this year. He’s had a very difficult time of it. After an unpleasant face-to-face PIP assessment in April, his PIP application was turned down in July. I’ve been following Sean’s disastrous experience of the failed PIP application “system” for a while.

Now there comes a bizarre twist. Last week – just a week after Sean received his PIP rejection letter – Sean received a letter from the DWP which said that as a result of a request made by Sean, the DWP had reviewed its decision not to award Sean PIP (and found against him again). People who want to challenge a PIP decision must ask the DWP to go through a process of reviewing an original award decision before the PIP applicant can appeal that decision at a tribunal. This extra review step is called Mandatory Reconsideration. If people want this review, they can contact the DWP explaining why they think the original decision was wrong. I’m guessing the letter Sean received is a Mandatory Reconsideration decision letter (about a mandatory reconsideration he hadn’t requested yet), but am not sure. I get very confused about all of this myself. Feel free to share views on the letter.

The problem is that Sean never actually asked the DWP to carry out this review. He has yet to ask for a review of any kind (even though the letter says he asked for this one). He certainly didn’t ask the DWP to review a PIP decision that was made in May, as the letter says. That’s because in May, Sean still had no idea whether he’d been awarded PIP or not. He’d only just had his face-to-face assessment. The decision about his application had not been made. He only received a letter informing him of the outcome of his application towards the end of July. Still, he got this letter. It says the review of Sean’s PIP rejection is done and dusted, and that the answer to Sean’s request for PIP is still No:

MR_decision_letter

You can imagine how Sean felt when this letter turned up. He’d only just found out that his application for PIP had been denied. Then he got this letter which made him think that the review step – his chance to explain in detail why he should be awarded PIP – had gone ahead without him. He was very upset when he rang me to talk about it last Friday. It’s no wonder that this process drives people to the brink. Continue reading